|parents||Enoch Kinder & Matilda Maud Crask
|born||22 February 1883, St Kilda, Victoria, Australia
|died||5 May 1947, Heidelberg, Victoria, Australia
|buried||6 May 1947, Brighton, Victoria, Australia[2,3]
|Enoch Leslie was always known as Leslie or Les.
He was born on 22 February 1883 at his parent’s home at 31 Evelyn
Street, St Kilda. It is expected that he was educated and grew up
in the St Kilda area.
Leslie had may different jobs throughout his life including in 1903 a Packer, in 1903 a Draper's Packer, in 1909 a Groom, in 1909 a Perambulator Manufacturer/Blacksmith, in 1914, a Labourer, in 1937 a Bricklayer and in 1947 a Labourer.
|Leslie had a few early convictions for - assulting two girls in 1909 and another for drink driving in 1924.|
The Argus, 9 October 1909
The Argus, 24 July 1924
The Argus, 25 July 1924
|Something strange is going on here. The bride was really Catherine (Katherine) Winifred Kinniff. This conclusion is reached since:-
* The parents on John Daniel's birth certificate (December 1903) are Leslie and Katherine Kinder formerly Kinniff. The registration was made by Mary Kinniff, Aunt.
* The parents on Mary Magdalene's birth certificate are Leslie and Catherine Winifred Kinder formerly Kinnoff.
* There is a birth of Catherine Winifred Kinniff in 1877 in Richmond, Victoria with parents John Kinniff and Mary Franklin. John Kinniff was born in Holborn, London, England.
* The death certificate for Catherine Winifred Dunstan states her first marriage was to Leslie Kinder.
So who was Katherine Davies? Did John Kinniff and Mary Franklyn divorce and she remarry Davies but why would her name be Katherine? John Kinniff was alive at this time. Did Catherine Winifred make up the name to disguise herself? But who was Katherine Davies who signed as a witness? Catherine's mother?
from Catherine's death certificate
|Catherine was buried on 3 January 1953 at the Brighton Cemetery,
Victoria. She lies in the Roman Catholic Section R, grave 208C.|
Lying in the same grave is her nephew, Daniel Thomas Kinniff who was buried on 4 June 1985.
Note:- No mention of a loving
|On 27 October 1914 Leslie joined the Australian Imperial Force and after basic training, went
off to fight in Europe. He was a Private and served in the 29th Battalion. His
service number was 2602. He proved to be a bit of a handful, even for the army!
He initially arrived in Egypt but was sent home aboard the Kyarra and returned to Australia 17 July 1915 and admitted to hospital. In August 1915 he was discharged from the Langwarrin Isolation Hospital having having suffered from gonorrhea and was sent to the Seymour Barracks.
He reattested on 10 March 1916 because his original attestation papers were lost.
On 14 March 1916, he again went overseas aboard the Anchises but quickly got himself into trouble. The ship stopped in Colombo, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) and he and 6 others went absent without leave (AWL) and failed to re-embark before the ship left. He was AWL for 14 days and was fined 58 days pay.
On 19 November 1916, he was admitted to hospital but returned to duty on 7 December. In early March 1917, he was in France (Etaples) but found himself in hospital and again in April 1917 and yet again in September 1917 - each time for periods of 2 or 3 weeks.
Postcard sent from Egypt, May 1916 to Leslie's
brother Bert (George Herbert Kinder).
Leslie died on 5 May 1947 at the age of 63 years in the Austin Hospital at Heidelberg, Victoria.
He suffered from heart disease and cancer of the rectum.
No Last Will or Probate has been found.
from Leslie's death certificate
Leslie was buried on 6 May 1947 at the Brighton General Cemetery,
He lies in the Church of England Section R, grave 71.
Hilda died at Mentone, Victoria on 15 February 1975 aged 79
years. Her last address was 77 Charman Road. |
She was buried on 15 February 1975 in the same grave as Leslie.
Also buried in this grave are his children with Hilda Mayes - June Kinder, Patricia Ann Foristal, David Hamilton Kinder and Gerald Kinder.
Hilda's Last Will was made out on 19 July 1974
from John Daniel's death certificate
The Argus, 5 June 1947
Interesting to see Enoch Leslie's name mentioned. Was this a little dig at him?
|Murray (at right) with his uncle Bert with Maud Minnie Stvens (left) and Marjorie Gwendoline Kinder.|
from Ronald and Alice's marriage certificate